Phantom Colouring

Phantom Poodles and Phantom Groodles are very rare due to their unique colouring and the specific DNA required. Phantoms are so rare that it is even difficult for us to predict when we will have Phantom puppies in our litters.

Phantom Poodles or Phantom Groodles are not different breeds or types of dogs; the term simply describes their unique colouring. This type of colouring is extremely beautiful and preferred by many Poodle and Groodle owners

More About Phantom Poodles and Groodles

Phantom Poodles and Groodles are not just about having two colours; the placement of these colours is key. Black Groodles or Poodles with phantom markings may have secondary colours like apricot, red, cream, gray, silver, or brown. Similarly, red Groodles or chocolate Groodles will typically have apricot as their secondary colour. A dog’s colouring can change as it grows, but Phantom Poodles and Phantom Groodles are born with their markings, allowing you to know what they will look like as adults from a young age.

Cryptic Merles, often mistaken for Phantom Merles, carry the Merle gene but do not show it visibly. It’s crucial for breeders to genetically test for Crypto Merle, especially when breeding, to avoid health issues. At Gramayre, we DNA health test all our puppies and ensure they are free from Crypto Merle.

Colour Genetics Is Very Complex

For phantom points to be visible, the dog needs the AtAt or Ata gene combination on the A (agouti) locus. This locus controls the distribution of black and red colour pigments and markings. However, other loci such as the E (extension) and K (dominant black) locus also play roles. The dog must be EE or Ee for normal pigment production, while an Em at the extension locus can mask the phantom points. If the dog is ee, the coat will be red, and the phantom points will not show.

Additionally, the dog must carry kyky at the K locus for the markings to be visible. If the dog is Kb at the K locus, it will be solid black. A dog with KbrKbr or Kbrky will have brindled phantom points, as brindle affects only the red pigments. The base colour can also be altered by genes responsible for dilution, brown, progressive greying, or merle, leading to shades like blue-gray, chocolate, or silver-gray. The secondary phantom points can be modified by the intensity gene, resulting in lighter shades such as cream or apricot.

These are some of the possible colour combinations that a Phantom Poodle or Groodle can have:

Phantom colouring means the dog has two distinct colours, with the secondary colour appearing in specific locations such as above the eyes, on the muzzle, chest, lower parts of the legs, inside the ears, and under the tail. The primary colour typically covers most of the body, head, and legs, and can be black, red, chocolate, or silver.

  • Black base colour with tan, cream, chalk white, or apricot phantom points.

  • Merle pattern on the base coat with tan, cream, chalk white, or apricot phantom points.

  • Blue-gray base with tan, cream, chalk white, or apricot phantom points.

  • Black, blue, silver, or brown base coat with red (tan) phantom points.

  • Silvery base with tan, cream, chalk white, or apricot phantom points.

  • Black, blue, silver, or brown background with apricot phantom points.

  • Black, blue, silver, or brown base colour with cream phantom points.

  • Black, blue, silver, or brown base with brindle phantom points.

  • Chocolate base coat with tan, cream, chalk white, or apricot phantom points.

  • Parti Poodle with phantom markings, showing black, blue, silver, or brown base colour with phantom points plus white markings.

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  • We had a fantastic experience with Sharon and Peter from Gramayre Groodles and Poodles. They are such wonderful and lovely people who genuinely care about the welfare of their dogs. The puppies are raised on a beautiful rural property with plenty of space for them to run free. The DNA testing they perform ensures clients are fully informed upfront on all attributes of the puppies. This was critical for us, as my wife has dog hair allergies, and we didn't want to get attached to a puppy only to find out it shed hair and inflamed her allergies.

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    We couldn't be happier, Peter was amazing from 1st contact right through to us picking her up. Peter met us and showed us our little girl. He then took us to meet mum &dad aswell as the other beautiful pups. He spent quality time with us, going over everything we needed to know and also provided us with her food for several days. Peter has an amazing quality and passion for all his dogs and available puppies.

    Peter is available for any questions or concerns regarding anything if needed prior to pick-up and after. Tashi has settled in well, due to Peters extensive experience and amazing love for his dogs.

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Frequently Asked Questions

  • Phantom Poodles and Phantom Groodles have a rare and unique two-tone colouring, with specific secondary colour placements.

  • Phantom markings require specific genetic combinations, such as AtAt or Ata on the agouti locus, with secondary colours appearing in designated areas like above the eyes and on the chest.

  • Yes, they can have various combinations, including black and tan, red, apricot, cream, brindle, tricolour, blue-gray, and chocolate.

  • No, they are not different breeds. Phantom refers to a particular colouring pattern that can occur in both Poodles and Groodles.

  • While their base and secondary colours may lighten or darken, Phantom Poodles and Groodles are born with their markings, and the pattern itself does not change.

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